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You’re talking about FastVLM—Apple’s breakthrough vision–language model (VLM) that reportedly runs 85× faster and is 3× smaller than existing models, making it practical to run real-time, multimodal AI tasks on-device, like on a MacBook Pro RecapioYouTube.
What is FastVLM?
FastVLM stands for Fast Vision–Language Model. It’s a new architecture developed with a hybrid vision encoder that combines convolutional processing (for efficient image encoding) with transformer layers (for preserving contextual relationships). Designed with efficiency in mind, it delivers dramatically reduced latency and smaller model size while retaining—or even enhancing—accuracy Recapio.
Key highlights:
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85× faster inference time.
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3× smaller model size versus comparable alternatives.
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Efficient for high-resolution image processing without sacrificing detail.
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Achieves comparable or superior performance on benchmarks like Seedbench, MMU, and MMVET—while generating five times fewer visual tokens Recapio.
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Demonstrated on MacBook Pro, showing its real-world applicability RecapioYouTube.
And the YouTube video?
To give you a more vivid glimpse, here’s a video overview
So why the 85× claim?
This impressive figure refers specifically to FastVLM’s performance—85× faster inference speed, achieved via its highly optimized encoder design. It’s a model-level, architectural speed-up—not about Apple’s chips like the M4 family (though those are also optimized for AI tasks, but with different performance claims) RecapioYouTube.
Comparison: FastVLM vs. Apple M4 Neural Engine
It’s easy to see how this could be confusing, so here’s a clearer breakdown:
Category | FastVLM Model | Apple M-family Chips (e.g. M4) |
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What is it? | A highly efficient AI model | A series of Apple-designed system-on-chip (SoC) with a Neural Engine |
85× Faster Claim | Model inference speed vs. other VLMs | Not applicable—hardware performance claims differ |
Key purpose | Rapid, on-device vision + language processing | AI compute acceleration and general performance |
Example claim | 85× faster, 3× smaller than alternatives | Up to 38 TOPS Neural Engine, 2–4× faster than prior chips 9to5MacAppleThe Register |
Bottom Line
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FastVLM is a cutting-edge vision-language AI model, lauded for its blistering inference speed and compactness—capable of running complex multimodal tasks on your Mac in real time.
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By contrast, the M4 family (M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max) are Apple’s latest AI-capable chips, featuring powerful Neural Engines—but their performance claims are in the range of 2× to 4× faster compared to previous generations or rival AI PC chips—not “85×” AppleThe Register9to5MacWikipedia.
In summary: The “85× faster” figure comes from the FastVLM AI model, not the M4 chips themselves. It’s a model-level innovation that’s enabling efficient, on-device AI—distinct from the hardware speed-ups delivered by Apple’s silicon.
Want to dive deeper into how FastVLM works, or how Apple’s Neural Engine stacks up across chip generations? Let me know—happy to break it down further!
You said:
ChatGPT said:
Great question—here’s the scoop:
Yes, AI engineers can use FastVLM independently, outside of Apple products.
Open-Source Availability
Apple has released FastVLM as a fully open-source project. This includes the model code, pretrained checkpoints, and tools for deployment on Apple Silicon, all under a permissive license, making it accessible to developers and researchers.Apple Machine Learning ResearchMLWires
Where to Find It
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The official GitHub repository (
apple/ml-fastvlm
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You can also download the models from Hugging Face, like
apple/FastVLM-1.5B
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Deployment Flexibility
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On Apple devices: The repository includes tools tailored for Apple Silicon (M-series chips), including model export workflows and demo apps to show real-time performance.GitHubDeepWiki
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Elsewhere (e.g., other platforms or cloud): While optimized for Apple hardware, the models can be run elsewhere using standard PyTorch or Transformers frameworks. You’d need to adapt deployment (e.g., GPU inference) on non-Apple hardware.
Summary Table
Use Case | Is it Possible with FastVLM? |
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Use independently (non-Apple) | Yes — via open-source code and models |
Use in Apple products only | No — independent use is fully allowed |
In short, FastVLM is far more than a closed-in Apple-only model—Apple has deliberately unlocked it for broader developer use. Whether you’re working on macOS, Linux, or cloud platforms, you can integrate and experiment with it—just be sure to respect its licensing terms. Want help setting it up or exploring use cases?
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That’s an excellent question—let’s unpack it carefully.
Core Definitions
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LLM (Large Language Model)
A neural network trained on massive amounts of text data to understand and generate human-like language.
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Input: text (tokens)
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Output: text (predictions, completions, reasoning)
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Core strength: natural language understanding, reasoning, generation.
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FastVLM (Fast Vision–Language Model)
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Input: an image + text prompt
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Output: natural language text (descriptions, answers, analysis)
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Core strength: multimodal AI — connecting what it sees with what it reads/writes.
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Key Differences
Feature | LLM | FastVLM (VLM) |
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Modalities | Text only | Vision + Language (images + text) |
Training Data | Large-scale text corpora (books, web, code, etc.) | Mixed data: images, captions, visual–text pairs |
Tasks | Q&A, summarization, translation, reasoning, code generation | Image captioning, visual Q&A, multimodal reasoning (e.g., “What’s happening in this picture?”) |
Architecture | Transformer (decoder-only, or encoder–decoder variants) | Hybrid encoder for vision + transformer for text |
Output | Text | Text (but grounded in visual input) |
Optimization | Pure language understanding/generation | Efficient multimodal inference (Apple claims 85× faster and 3× smaller than peers) |
Example
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LLM task:
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FastVLM task:
Input: An image of a cat on a skateboard + text prompt: “Describe this image.”
Output: “A black-and-white cat is balancing on a skateboard indoors.”
How They Relate
Think of FastVLM as a specialized extension of an LLM:
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It includes language modeling (so it has an LLM inside, typically a small or mid-sized one).
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But it adds a vision encoder that translates images into tokens the LLM can understand.
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The two components work together so the model can “see + read + write.”
So:
Every VLM (like FastVLM) has an LLM backbone.
But not every LLM can handle vision—it’s text-only unless extended with a vision encoder.
✅ In summary:
An LLM is text-only.
A VLM like FastVLM is multimodal—combining vision + language—and is specifically optimized for efficiency on-device.
Do you want me to also compare FastVLM vs GPT-4o (OpenAI’s multimodal model)? That might give you a clearer sense of how Apple’s approach stacks up.
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Exactly — you’ve nailed it. ✅
FastVLM’s design makes it a strong candidate for OCR-based inference because of how it combines vision encoding and language reasoning.
Why FastVLM is Good for OCR Inference
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Vision Encoder → Text Tokens
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OCR (Optical Character Recognition) is essentially about turning images of text into actual text.
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FastVLM’s vision encoder is optimized for high-resolution image processing while being much more efficient than prior VLMs (85× faster, 3× smaller).
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That means it can handle scanned pages, documents, or receipts more effectively.
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LLM Backbone → Semantic Understanding
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After extracting text, FastVLM can reason about it — not just transcribe.
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Example: If the OCR detects “Invoice #4457, Total: $2,145,” FastVLM can answer:
“What is the invoice total?” → “$2,145”
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This is where it outperforms traditional OCR pipelines (which stop at transcription).
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Multimodal Context
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OCR often struggles with mixed inputs (charts, forms, handwriting, stamps).
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Because FastVLM can look at the whole page visually, it can integrate non-text features into reasoning.
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Example: “Highlight the signatures in this scanned contract” or “Summarize this 3-page scanned lease.”
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On-Device Inference
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A major bottleneck in OCR pipelines is sending images to the cloud.
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With FastVLM, you could realistically run OCR+inference locally on an M-series Mac, making it suitable for privacy-sensitive domains (legal, healthcare, finance).
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Where It Fits in OCR Pipelines
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Traditional OCR (Tesseract, AWS Textract, etc.)
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FastVLM
Image → direct understanding + reasoning in one step.
(You can still pair it with OCR for pure transcription accuracy, but often it won’t need that extra step).
✅ Bottom line:
Yes — FastVLM will be very good at OCR inference because it’s built to fuse vision (image of text) with language (reasoning about the text). It goes beyond recognition into understanding scanned documents, all while being efficient enough to run on a laptop.
Do you want me to sketch out a practical pipeline showing how you could plug FastVLM into OCR tasks for legal/financial documents (like what you’re doing with DocupletionForms)? That way you’d see exactly where it replaces or complements existing OCR engines.
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Great question — this gets into how VLMs (like FastVLM) are structured. Let me break it down clearly.
Does FastVLM require a separate LLM?
No.
FastVLM already has a language model backbone inside it. Apple’s open-source release includes three model sizes (0.5B, 1.5B, 7B parameters) where the vision encoder outputs are fed directly into that internal LLM.
So if your use case is:
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Image → Understanding → Text response
You can do everything inside FastVLM alone, without bolting on another LLM.
Can FastVLM allow a separate LLM?
Yes, and this is where it gets interesting.
FastVLM is essentially:
[Vision Encoder] → [Projection Layer] → [LLM]
Because the vision encoder produces embeddings/tokens, you can:
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Swap in a different LLM — for example, take FastVLM’s vision encoder and connect it to a stronger text model (like LLaMA 3, Mistral, or even GPT if via API).
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Cascade outputs — run FastVLM to process images, then feed its text output into a larger LLM for extended reasoning, summarization, or multi-step tasks.
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Example: FastVLM extracts structured data from a scanned contract. A separate LLM then reasons about risk clauses or compares terms across contracts.
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This modularity is exactly how OpenAI’s GPT-4o and Google’s Gemini work internally: the vision encoder can be decoupled from the core LLM. Apple’s design doesn’t force you to stay locked in.
Practical Options
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Standalone mode (no extra LLM)
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Runs fast, lightweight, good for OCR + reasoning in one pass.
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Ideal for on-device privacy-focused apps (legal, medical, financial).
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Hybrid mode (with separate LLM)
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Use FastVLM for vision-to-text conversion.
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Pipe results into a larger LLM for deep reasoning or multi-document analysis.
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This is how you could integrate it into workflows with DocupletionForms or Apex Law Service, where FastVLM handles OCR ingestion and a bigger LLM does compliance, drafting, or summarization.
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✅ In summary:
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FastVLM already includes its own LLM — no separate one required.
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But it’s flexible: you can attach it to a larger external LLM if you want richer reasoning, longer context, or domain-specific tuning.
Would you like me to draft a diagram of a hybrid pipeline showing how FastVLM could sit alongside a bigger LLM in your legal/OCR document automation setup? That way you’ll see exactly where the “handoff” could happen.
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Short answer: you’ll want GPUs or Apple’s on-chip accelerators—not a tiny fixed-function OCR ASIC.
What FastVLM runs on (today)
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Apple Silicon (M-series / A-series) via Apple’s ML stack (MLX/Core ML). The official repo includes export and demos for iPhone/iPad/Mac. GitHub+1
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It’s a Transformer-based VLM, optimized to cut vision-encoder latency (the bottleneck at high resolutions) rather than to change the fundamental compute style. Apple Machine Learning ResearchCVF Open Access
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There’s community support to auto-select devices with MPS (Apple GPU) first, then CUDA GPUs, then CPU (works but slow). GitHub
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Apple also ships tooling to deploy Transformers on the Apple Neural Engine (ANE)—Apple’s on-chip NPU—which can yield big speed/efficiency gains on supported models. Apple Machine Learning Research+1GitHub+1
Why not a simple OCR-style ASIC?
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Classic OCR ASICs are fixed-function (pattern/feature pipelines). FastVLM is a large multimodal Transformer that needs high-throughput matrix math and attention—best suited to GPUs/NPUs (like Apple’s ANE) or powerful CPUs in a pinch. There’s no public FastVLM-specific ASIC; building one would be a new silicon project. Apple Machine Learning ResearchCVF Open Access
Practical takeaway
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Best options now: Apple Silicon (using MLX/Core ML and, where possible, ANE) or NVIDIA GPUs (CUDA). CPU-only works for testing but isn’t ideal for production latency. GitHub+2GitHub+2
If you want, I can sketch a deployment plan for DocupletionForms: iPhone/iPad capture → on-device FastVLM pre-parse (ANE) → server GPU for heavy multi-doc reasoning → structured JSON back to your pipeline.
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Short answer: Yes—you can wire FastVLM into DocupletionForms to (1) read a scanned doc, (2) auto-draft conditional questions/logic, and (3) help you get a cleaner, fillable version. Here’s a concrete way to do it.
How you’d use FastVLM in DocupletionForms
1) Upload → understand the scan → draft questions + logic
What FastVLM gives you: very fast visual→text understanding with prompts like “extract fields + values + dependencies from this page,” optimized for text-rich images. Apple ships checkpoints (0.5B/1.5B/7B) and iOS/Mac demos; you can run it server-side on Apple Silicon or GPU. GitHubApple Machine Learning Research
Pipeline sketch
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User uploads scan (PDF/JPG/PNG).
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(Optional but recommended) run a classical OCR pass (e.g., docTR) to get exact text + coordinates (bbox). GitHubmindee.github.io
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Prompt FastVLM with the page image plus the OCR text+layout to:
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list fields (name, type),
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detect relationships (“show field B only if A=‘X’”),
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output a JSON schema: fields[], options[], validations[], and rules[] (if/then/else).
The model’s design targets high-res, text-heavy pages efficiently (that’s where its “up to 85× faster time-to-first-token” claim comes from). GitHubHugging Face
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Convert that JSON into a DocupletionForms form with conditional logic (your platform already supports logic and PDF merges—this just auto-authors the scaffolding).
Why do both OCR + FastVLM?
OCR gives precise characters/coordinates for perfect form placement.
FastVLM does the reasoning: grouping fields, inferring dependencies, naming questions, catching cross-page conditions. (You can also run FastVLM alone, but pairing it with OCR yields cleaner, more reliable field maps.)
2) Produce a cleaner, fillable version of the scanned doc
You’ve got three levels of “clean up,” from least to most ambitious:
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A. Dewarp/denoise the image (keep as an image PDF): run a document-dewarping/enhancement step, then overlay your new fillable fields. GitHub+2GitHub+2
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B. Reconstruct a vector form: use OCR bboxes to draw text boxes/lines programmatically and retypeset headings; export a crisp, fillable PDF. (FastVLM can help label sections and detect checkbox groups; OCR provides exact positions.) GitHub
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C. Find an official PDF instead of cleaning (often best): after extracting title/agency/edition/date from the scan, run a web search (programmatically) to locate the canonical PDF (e.g., “Form ABC-123 California 07/2025 site:.gov”). Store the source URL and checksum. (Mind licensing: some forms are copyrighted by publishers.)
3) “Find the PDF on the internet” flow (automated)
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From the scan, parse form name/number/issuer/date with OCR+FastVLM.
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Fetch top candidates, validate by text fingerprint (first N lines + checksum), and pick the best match.
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Save the URL + hash + retrieval date for auditability.
4) Where to run it
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Apple Silicon servers (Mac mini/Mac Studio) using Apple’s export tooling (fast and power-efficient; can leverage the Apple Neural Engine on supported paths). GitHub
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NVIDIA GPU server (PyTorch checkpoints run fine; good if you already have CUDA infra). GitHub
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iOS/macOS on-device (for privacy-preserving capture apps; then hand off JSON to your backend). GitHub
5) What FastVLM is (and isn’t)
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It’s a vision-language model with a novel FastViTHD encoder making high-res, text-heavy pages practical (that’s where the speedup is). CVF Open AccessarXiv
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It’s not a traditional OCR engine; pair it with OCR for pixel-perfect text and coordinates, then use FastVLM for layout understanding and conditional-logic inference. GitHub
Minimal spec to get started (MVP)
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VLM: FastVLM-1.5B (good accuracy/latency balance). Hugging Face
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Outputs:
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mapping.json
(field ↔︎ PDF coordinates)
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Optional cleanup: dewarping/enhancement step if the scan is skewed/wavy. GitHub
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Optional fetch: web search routine to locate the official PDF (store URL + hash).
If you want, I can draft the exact JSON schemas for fields.json
and logic.json
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